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Following a bust with the macros yesterday, I decided, based on the sporting extenuating circumstances, to increase my bank by 50pts.

One or two have gone close, but this is the first time in many years I’ve had a system or tipping service bust a bank.

However, while I was doing my due diligence, I could see from previous results some wildly different quarters for the service. That with the shutdown/restart is enough to stick with it for the time being.

That said, the addition to the bank is a one off. If a service needs a bank of 250+ pts, then it’s just not going to work for me.

I will wait until the RAP tool has had another month’s racing added before I get into some data crunching. 

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Hello

 

You are right that the circumstances have had an effect, last week was very poor for my systems, only 1 or 2 winners, a few placed barely breaking even but the previous week was winners galore at decent prices. It is the nature to be volatile, if your bank is bust and you’re adding 50 pts then surely it’s a bank of 50 pts? So either reduce stakes or number of bets or that 50 pts might not last long.

The Raptool has up to 3 years data on it so shouldn’t effect systems in my opinion but of course it only shows historical data it’s not a crystal ball.

 

Best of Luck 

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Thanks

I’d consider it as a revised bank of 250pts rather than a new entity but that’s down to one’s own semantic preference.

As I read last week, there’s likely to be a fair few others who started in the last 6 to 9 months who are broadly in a similar situation depending on their bank sizes. 

On the bet volume, if the macros continue with a high number of selections without success, more than likely it won’t last long. As we don’t know (understandably) each’s exact criteria, personally I wouldn’t know which to drop/rest and which to keep. I suppose you could decide based on factors such as price bands or price movement, etc. Others who are more adept with data specifics may make considered decisions on each.

Sure there’s an argument for going to 1/2 a point but that may only slow the bleeding and not cure the patient. Already 10pts down today as I write, I’ll think about it at close of play tonight.

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Hello

Personally I’ve dropped all the built in Macro’s and I’ve revised all my systems and slimmed down, was doing 30-50 bets a day, now 8-12 depending on courses. Today there are only 4 selections.

It does need constant revision and modification, It’s very likely that Ian’s Macros are profitable over a year but as you say you don’t know the exact parameters or why they change at different times of the year, 

I don’t bet anything under 3.0 and from 6.0 and up I do E/W. most selections are 8 and above so I am aware that winners are less frequent but my systems show good profit on placed money as well as the win market.

Happy to have a look at anything if you want a second opinion.

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Took just over a month but hit the end of the line today as the topped up bank bust.

Seems as good a time to stop as any if the service is being reviewed. Terribly disappointing even with the extenuating circumstances this year.

TBH going in forward my preference is for more control over selections and not relying on ‘known unknowns’.

I’ve already started using other databases to work on systems and that’s something to push forward into the autumn. Whether I can incorporate any useful data from RTS I don’t know. The poor performance has left considerable doubts. However, the RAP tool will be used for the remaining 5 months of the sub depending on whether things are kept going in their current form.

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Hello

 

That’s sad to hear, if there is anything I can do to help DM me, happy to take a look at the systems if you think that might help.

Were you using the built in Macro’s? (I don’t)

My own systems are showing slow growth and I’m quite happy with RTS and RAP at the moment.

Chris

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I went through all 200 pts of the bank I set up for FTS Racing macros starting on June 1 and ending on August 30. In some ways it’s probably an (expensive) blessing in disguise because I’ve been much more focused in on making a success of the football betting in September.

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Yes, I’m also struggling quite a lot recently. I started RTS in June and I was using a combination of my own RAP systems (~15 systems) and the included RTS Macros. I stopped using the macros at the end of August as I lost over 100 points on those, but I’m also not having much success with the RAP either recently, overall being down over 200 points since starting in June. I know horse racing is a long term game but I’m not sure how much longer I can last with days of 5-10 points loss becoming more and more common.

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scotty91 said
Yes, I’m also struggling quite a lot recently. I started RTS in June and I was using a combination of my own RAP systems (~15 systems) and the included RTS Macros. I stopped using the macros at the end of August as I lost over 100 points on those, but I’m also not having much success with the RAP either recently, overall being down over 200 points since starting in June. I know horse racing is a long term game but I’m not sure how much longer I can last with days of 5-10 points loss becoming more and more common.

  

Scotty, 

I’d suggest you have too many systems, when I started back in November last year I had so many systems it was crazy, maybe 50 bets a day, on a 200 point bank it meant I could blow a bank in 4 days if they all lost, I scaled things back, pretty much putting most systems to the trash heap, double checked and triple checked each remaining system, 

I now have 4 systems on RTS database (1 in trial) and 6 on the RAP (1 in trial). Currently 12.85 pts up since June 1st, that’s with a horrendous last couple of weeks, was over 40 pts up…..

 

Happy to take a look at anything for you if you want a second opinion, PM me.

 

Chris

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@capitalchrisw said

scotty91 said

Yes, I’m also struggling quite a lot recently. I started RTS in June and I was using a combination of my own RAP systems (~15 systems) and the included RTS Macros. I stopped using the macros at the end of August as I lost over 100 points on those, but I’m also not having much success with the RAP either recently, overall being down over 200 points since starting in June. I know horse racing is a long term game but I’m not sure how much longer I can last with days of 5-10 points loss becoming more and more common.

  

Scotty, 

I’d suggest you have too many systems, when I started back in November last year I had so many systems it was crazy, maybe 50 bets a day, on a 200 point bank it meant I could blow a bank in 4 days if they all lost, I scaled things back, pretty much putting most systems to the trash heap, double checked and triple checked each remaining system, 

I now have 4 systems on RTS database (1 in trial) and 6 on the RAP (1 in trial). Currently 12.85 pts up since June 1st, that’s with a horrendous last couple of weeks, was over 40 pts up…..

 

Happy to take a look at anything for you if you want a second opinion, PM me.

 

Chris

  

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the offer to take a look – I will have to take you up on that at some point soon. 

Even with all those systems, there usually aren’t too many bets each day – just one course per system so usually only 2-3 systems are active each day, with no more than 10 bets/day usually. Since posting I have made a bit of a recovery (+25 points in the last week) – so maybe I just need to hold out and see how it goes longer term. 

 

Cheers

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Great to see you’ve turned a corner, pm me anytime

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