Are you betting them all, no matter the odds or score? Not all qualified and as I see it I think only one lost this weekend (unless I missed some?).

You need to let the market settle at HT and ensure they meet the odds requirement and also are not 0-0.

Since September I am up 23 points on these and I have missed a few winners! Since December I am down 1.5 points, but again I missed some winners too so not the end of the earth if using a bank properly.

salva1 said
This is a very good method but I’m afraid can suffer relatively big losing runs — if you look at the past results it can do this — but if you stick at it ‘long term’ — and I mean years —  then it will be ok….

  

Sorry, did not mean to down rate your post but it wont let me change it now!

No worries ndrury

This is a nice method and I like this SHG method Ian has given us here very much .. the issue can be  the (borderline) 7.0 lay and when you look at it…. Overall, I am up about +16pts this year on this so I am very happy with it, but this weekend, when I looked at the 2 border line ones,  they were both showing at 7.0 the lay price, so I bet them  — if I looked few minutes later then it prob might have shown at 7.2 the lay, so it’d have been a no bet…  they both lost {TRAB V FEN & SION v ZURICH both at 7.0 so -12pts} but such are the fine lines in this game at times. 

I think  I will take the pragmatic view that  if it’s 7.0 then I won’t bet it — I’ll miss the winners but I’ll miss the losers too 

Steve said

ndrury said

Are you betting them all, no matter the odds or score? Not all qualified and as I see it I think only one lost this weekend (unless I missed some?).

You need to let the market settle at HT and ensure they meet the odds requirement and also are not 0-0.

Since September I am up 23 points on these and I have missed a few winners! Since December I am down 1.5 points, but again I missed some winners too so not the end of the earth if using a bank properly.

  

Hi there, I had 2 losers this weekend, -10.6 points and 2 winners, total -8.64 points on HT CS Lays this weekend. Since Sept I show 26 points profit

 

QPR	Bristol City	NO	5.6	-4.6
Mechelen	Gent	YES	6.2	0.98
Ankaragucu	Kasimpasa	YES	5.7	0.98
Sion	FC Zurich	NO	7	-6

  

Sion was not a bet for me, when I checked the odds, the lay was 7.2. If it is bordering on 7/7.2 I will wait till nearer second half KO to see what the odds fall on. QPR I had along with the 2 winners.

I too had a bad weekend but one of my systems, nothing to do with FTS, was also bad so I’ll wait and see what happens to them all.

These are only Betfair prices, what happens if you use Betdaq like me where you can get better prices because of the difference. i.e. it might say 7.0  to 7.2 on Betfair but could be 6.8 to 7.4 on Betdaq meaning you get a better price if you get matched.

Steve said

danny2 said

7.4 and 7.2 are the official recorded prices for the two Swiss games so neither were bets. If you leave a lay in at 7 waiting to be matched then you can still fall outside the system rules as you are getting matched on the back side of the book and it may never have been 7 to lay during half time. 

  

Hi Danny, where do you get these official recorded prices please? That Sion game, do we not put in a lay bet between 5 and 7 ? I put in a lay bet at 7 during HT and it was matched? Obviously if it doesnt get matched, then I am out 5 seconds before second half starts, but yesterday it got matched so was a bet? Fine margins ! Thanks

  

You might be right Steve, I’d need to check again, I only enter if it’s between 5 and 7 on the lay side. The prices were recorded on the FDD HT prices sheet for yesterday. 

It depends when you check the odds during the half time break as they can move a couple of ticks, so there will be discrepancies with the borderline ones. I checked Sion a couple of minutes into the HT break and the lay odds were 7. Out of interest, at what time are the FDD prices checked?