FTS Income - All Forums https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/ Simple:Press Version 6.6.1 gaztaag on Goals,Thrills and Headaches https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/goalsthrills-and-headaches/#p2720 General Support https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/goalsthrills-and-headaches/#p2720 Hi guys,

Great idea for a topic Carlos.

My first year on FTS, in fact it's my first year using the exchange and actually taking my gambling seriously after years of mug punting.

I've actually had a roaring start to my systems and am currently around +29pts for the season across 5 systems (Technically 4 as 1 hasn't produced a bet yet). I too struggled at the start with having the level of liability that some of the bets produce, even now some of the bigger ones make me do a double take and take a sharp in take of breath.

I'm not completely detached from following results, I have notifications turned on for final results for each game but have turned off goal notifications. In fact I've resorted to two score apps now. I have Sofascore to notify me of final results for FTS games and I use Flashscores for goal notifications of games I'm actually following (Usually just Cov games - my team).

I've already had extremes of very very bad weekends and very very good weekends so far and it's really tough during those bad weekends to see the wrong results piling in. I think I focus too much on exactly what my balance is sometimes, and start looking at what games I have left to see if those games winning would make up the deficit from a loss.

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Thu, 26 Nov 2020 09:03:04 +0000
dinoma on Powerbuilder Selections Exporting Issue https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/fts-ultimate/powerbuilder-selections-exporting-issue/#p2719 FTS Ultimate https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/fts-ultimate/powerbuilder-selections-exporting-issue/#p2719

hibee07 said
Had same issues with duplicating games.

I got around it by loading the system and saving it again as a new system. Then worked and stopped pulling same games through

however this weekend had an issue with it putting wrong bets in. (LTD going on as a Bh/LA)

  

I've seen this, it's a botch job but if you go up that column to where the formula shows the same row as the column you are on and copy that cell down it should fix that issue. 

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Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:57:05 +0000
scorex on Goals,Thrills and Headaches https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/goalsthrills-and-headaches/#p2718 General Support https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/goalsthrills-and-headaches/#p2718 This is my second year with ultimate. Last year things had a rocky start too and then took off like a rocket.

One of the problems with just starting out and taking things easy with only a few systems is that randomness can sting quite hard when things go against you. As you progress and get more systems in your portfolio, the ups and downs of each system smooth eachother out ( for the most part ) and it's a nice upward curve over time. I added FTS Racing to my portfolio last year during the black friday sale ( ty Ian! ) and my systems from that have helped keep me in the green this season despite the football results being tough.

It's a lot of hard work, but it is paying off. Keep at it, it's well worth it.

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Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:02:13 +0000
steve08 on Goals,Thrills and Headaches https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/goalsthrills-and-headaches/#p2717 General Support https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/goalsthrills-and-headaches/#p2717 Hi All

My first post so go easy on me 

My Ultimate journey so far in my 1st year 

37 matches  +5.96 points up from 4 systems in 4 leagues

When i started i hated having the big liability especially when laying teams and struggled with the loss when it came, but now getting better and better with it as i know my systems will be profitable in the long run. When i lose now yeah its annoying but shrug it off with in the hour, as i dont say ive lost x amount of money on that game but x amount of points. I try to turn the money side of it into points then it is more bearable when the losses come. Just my way of thinking 

Had lots of ups and downs but mainly ups, had 3 or 4 last minute goals go for me but i know they will go against me further down the season 

Onwards and upwards look forward dont look behind. Good luck all 

Steve 

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Wed, 25 Nov 2020 11:19:27 +0000
yardi2k on HT Lays https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/fts-ultimate/ht-lays/page-6/#p2716 FTS Ultimate https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/fts-ultimate/ht-lays/page-6/#p2716 Thanks Klaus, still new and always learning so its things like this that I need to iron out 🙂 

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Tue, 24 Nov 2020 09:03:58 +0000
klaus8000 on HT Lays https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/fts-ultimate/ht-lays/page-6/#p2715 FTS Ultimate https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/fts-ultimate/ht-lays/page-6/#p2715 Yes, you must let the price settle. Otherwise you jump on bets that just had a little dive before or at HT wistle, but the actual HT price is 7-7.2 or so. I am 2.8 points in profit for that mentioned November period. Today two more winners, so November now is 4.8 points in profit.

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Tue, 24 Nov 2020 01:58:24 +0000
yardi2k on HT Lays https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/fts-ultimate/ht-lays/page-6/#p2714 FTS Ultimate https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/fts-ultimate/ht-lays/page-6/#p2714

Nacho said
I laid trabonzpor at 7 right on HT. Another nasty loser tonight at the same price in Sweden. 

  

Yes, same for me. Looking back earlier in this thread many have suggested waiting until 10 mins after half time whistle. Think moving forward I’ll let the market settle rather than jumping on as the half time whistle goes. Ultimately, if it’s a qualifier when the whistle goes but it has increased outside the parameters by the time FDD records the price then it isnt a qualifier for the system 

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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 20:52:08 +0000
Nacho on HT Lays https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/fts-ultimate/ht-lays/page-6/#p2713 FTS Ultimate https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/fts-ultimate/ht-lays/page-6/#p2713 I laid trabonzpor at 7 right on HT. Another nasty loser tonight at the same price in Sweden. 

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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 20:24:49 +0000
sbcfc6 on HT Lays https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/fts-ultimate/ht-lays/page-6/#p2712 FTS Ultimate https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/fts-ultimate/ht-lays/page-6/#p2712 my results from same date is -0.8pts.

yesterday trabzonspor v erzurm was 7.2/7.4 when i looked so was a no bet for me.

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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 18:06:23 +0000
sbcfc6 on Goals,Thrills and Headaches https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/goalsthrills-and-headaches/#p2711 General Support https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/goalsthrills-and-headaches/#p2711 thanks for the thread Carlos.

first year doing ultimate and the start has been a struggle.  as someone has mentioned I definitely have gone with to many lay systems.

i do the beginner lay the draws as straight lays and find myself over 20points down which is hard to handle for my first year but i  am not going to change or adjust any systems until i have given them at least 100 bets or bank goes.

the doubt has creeped in lately but i no i have to give all systems a fair chance with the bank i have assigned them 

does any one with experience have any advice on how best to asses a system against are results. how can we no when a system may just not work any more without losing a bank to find out ? if that makes sense.

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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 17:58:25 +0000
mbtrader79 on Goals,Thrills and Headaches https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/goalsthrills-and-headaches/#p2710 General Support https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/goalsthrills-and-headaches/#p2710 Great thread idea

This is my first (full) Ultimate season so it's very early doors. Before the break I was around 4 points down on the season which is nothing in the grand scheme of things but since the weekend I am now 18 points down overall. I know some people are having a worse time than me, but you can't help questioning things after a bloodbath of a weekend. That said, overall I'm determined to stay positive and grind this out. 

One thing I have noticed (or maybe it's only what I've personally seen) people seem to have more Lay systems than Back ones. I've got 8 macro's, all Back systems to protect my bank as much as possible as I've started out with a relatively modest, but correct bank for my staking. I wondered if everyone else had that experience?

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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 17:05:00 +0000
jamiep on Goals,Thrills and Headaches https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/goalsthrills-and-headaches/#p2709 General Support https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/goalsthrills-and-headaches/#p2709

yardi2k said
Hi Guys

I think this thread is a really good idea Carlos. Good to be able to share problems and get the insight of those who are more experienced. This is my first season on FTS Ultimate and had my first real mindset test over the last few weeks. In my portfolio of systems I operate 3 banks, 1 for main league systems, 1 for alternate league systems and 1 for HTCS lays.

I started the season like a train, all 3 sets firing. Then my alternate league systems seemingly fell apart. I lost 45.22 points over 120 games which really gave my confidence a dent. I can totally relate to Ian's podcasts as seemingly everything went against me with last minute goals hitting me time and time again. Fortunately, I think the international break came at the right time as it gave me time to settle myself down. I have used the time to sign up to VPS and Bet Angel trial and have automated my selections this weekend (big thanks to Nicholas Drury on twitter who helped me). I have also resolved to continue with my systems until Christmas to give them plenty of time to run before I have a look at them and consider any tweaks. Also, by using automation I am aiming to be able to just set the bets up on Friday and forget about them until Monday. I'm certainly not there yet (partially because I was checking every game to make sure the bets were being placed as I was expecting with being new to automation) but I think this will take away some of the peaks in my blood pressure over the weekend.

When I set my systems up I collated the results from the combination of systems I am using for the last 4 years and the biggest downturn on the alternate league systems was around 25 points from a sample of nearly 2,300 qualifying matches, so this has really come as a bit of a nerve jangler. Fortunately, I set myself up with 100 point bank and as I said, I got the season off to a good start so part of what I lost was profit which I think has helped my mindset. Not sure whether there is an issue with COVID or not, I've done some analysis on the leagues I've had losers in and doesn't seem to be any huge swings in the results from previous seasons (mainly focused on Turkey as that is where I took a real pasting). I've now pulled back 10.97 points so hopefully the worst is over with and am pleased that I've got to now without throwing in the towel or trying to change things that I had decided on.

Cheers

Paul

  

Hi Paul, 

In a strange way it's nice to see someone else struggling even though I would prefer us all to be winning.

The thing with covid and no crowds is home advantage has gone I'm not saying the crowd is everything but it does help the home side's win more, and with having away lay and Ltd systems it hasn't helped making progress this season, obviously variance will of been a factor as well.

Hopefully with the news of supporters coming back and vaccines in sight it should feel abit more normal soon.

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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 16:31:28 +0000
yardi2k on Goals,Thrills and Headaches https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/goalsthrills-and-headaches/#p2708 General Support https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/goalsthrills-and-headaches/#p2708 Hi Guys

I think this thread is a really good idea Carlos. Good to be able to share problems and get the insight of those who are more experienced. This is my first season on FTS Ultimate and had my first real mindset test over the last few weeks. In my portfolio of systems I operate 3 banks, 1 for main league systems, 1 for alternate league systems and 1 for HTCS lays.

I started the season like a train, all 3 sets firing. Then my alternate league systems seemingly fell apart. I lost 45.22 points over 120 games which really gave my confidence a dent. I can totally relate to Ian's podcasts as seemingly everything went against me with last minute goals hitting me time and time again. Fortunately, I think the international break came at the right time as it gave me time to settle myself down. I have used the time to sign up to VPS and Bet Angel trial and have automated my selections this weekend (big thanks to Nicholas Drury on twitter who helped me). I have also resolved to continue with my systems until Christmas to give them plenty of time to run before I have a look at them and consider any tweaks. Also, by using automation I am aiming to be able to just set the bets up on Friday and forget about them until Monday. I'm certainly not there yet (partially because I was checking every game to make sure the bets were being placed as I was expecting with being new to automation) but I think this will take away some of the peaks in my blood pressure over the weekend.

When I set my systems up I collated the results from the combination of systems I am using for the last 4 years and the biggest downturn on the alternate league systems was around 25 points from a sample of nearly 2,300 qualifying matches, so this has really come as a bit of a nerve jangler. Fortunately, I set myself up with 100 point bank and as I said, I got the season off to a good start so part of what I lost was profit which I think has helped my mindset. Not sure whether there is an issue with COVID or not, I've done some analysis on the leagues I've had losers in and doesn't seem to be any huge swings in the results from previous seasons (mainly focused on Turkey as that is where I took a real pasting). I've now pulled back 10.97 points so hopefully the worst is over with and am pleased that I've got to now without throwing in the towel or trying to change things that I had decided on.

Cheers

Paul

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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 15:42:06 +0000
yardi2k on HT Lays https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/fts-ultimate/ht-lays/page-6/#p2707 FTS Ultimate https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/fts-ultimate/ht-lays/page-6/#p2707 Hi all,

Quick note to see what people got on this weekend. From the podcast Ian said one loser over the weekend, whereas I had 2. Think the difference arises because of the time that the bets are placed, I tend to put on immediately as the half time whistle goes vs 55 mins after kick off. I wouldnt think overall it should make too much difference in the long run, but just wanted to sense check my results against others as the results file hasn't been updated for a while. Below are my selections for November for total loss of 4.7 pts.

Cheers

Paul

Date Country League Home Team Away Team Price Points P&L Win/loss
01/11/2020 Denmark Superligaen Odense AC Horsens 5 -4.00 Loss
01/11/2020 Sweden Allsvenskan Sirius Kalmar 5.6 0.98 Win
07/11/2020 England Premier League Everton Manchester United 5.2 0.98 Win
07/11/2020 Sweden Allsvenskan Mjallby Norrkoping 7 0.98 Win
07/11/2020 Belgium Juliper Pro League Kortijk Beerschot Wilrijk 6.8 0.98 Win
07/11/2020 Belgium Juliper Pro League Sint-Truiden Genk 5.7 -4.70 Loss
08/11/2020 Denmark Superligaen Midtjylland FC Copenhagen 6.2 0.98 Win
08/11/2020 Belgium Juliper Pro League Gent Anderlecht 7 0.98 Win
08/11/2020 England Premier League Arsenal Aston Villa 6.6 0.98 Win
21/11/2020 England Premier League Newcastle Chelsea 5.8 0.98 Win
21/11/2020 Belgium Juliper Pro League Waasland-Beveren Cercle Brugge 5.6 0.98 Win
22/11/2020 England Premier League Fulham Everton 6.2 0.98 Win
22/11/2020 Belgium Juliper Pro League Beerschot Wilrijk Anderlecht 6.8 0.98 Win
22/11/2020 Austria Bundesliga Wattens Admira Wacker 6.4 0.98 Win
22/11/2020 Belgium Juliper Pro League Zulte-Waregem KR Mechelen 6.4 0.98 Win
22/11/2020 Turkey Super Lig Trabzonspor Erzurum 7 -6.00 Loss
22/11/2020 Denmark Superligaen Vejle Brondby 5.6 0.98 Win
22/11/2020 Belgium Juliper Pro League Charleroi Gent 5.7 -4.70 Loss
22/11/2020 England Premier League Liverpool Leicester 6.8 0.98 Win
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Mon, 23 Nov 2020 15:04:37 +0000
hibee07 on Time Machine - Alt Leagues https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/time-machine-alt-leagues/#p2706 General Support https://ftsincome.co.uk/fts-forum/general-support-1/time-machine-alt-leagues/#p2706 Anyone having trouble with the time machine on alternative league.

when I select a system and export all to time machine my 2017/2018 season does not show in results

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Sun, 22 Nov 2020 20:03:23 +0000